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Tim Rogers Doesn’t Like Restaurant Coverage in New GuideLive.com

Posted on May 20th, 2009 2:45pm by Nancy Nichols
Filed under Foodie Video, Hippie revolutions, Restaurant News, Wine & Spirits

Enter Nancy…stands on soapbox.

Hark, Timmy just sent me a link to a post he wrote for FrontBurner. Seems our web guys did some investigating and supplied Timmy with some ammunition.

The crowd shudders with fear

He presents an interesting look at the problems print media is having managing massive amounts of web content. We at D may be hardheaded and slow, but we are typing our fingers down to stubs trying to re-enter our original editorial content to the web.

Cock crows. Exit Nancy stage left

17 comments

  1. Thank GOODNESS you still allow comments. Tim is RIGHT ON about the site. Have spent all day trying to make it work for me in the restaurant area and it is a nightmare. Was having lunch with a friend and so first thing went to try to use it like the old website to pull up a review, website link, etc. Doesn’t work…just a bland description and basic info. What WERE they THINKING????

    @ 3:07 pm on May 20, 2009

  2. hahahahahahaha “allow comments”

    Melody- shouldn’t the whole D blogpire allow comments?

    and while I agree that outsourcing is exactly what this country needs (sarcasm) I also don’t buy your reviews anymore than Z’s, after all you’ve only got to date someone to deem their establishment a “best of”

    if this is journalism, it was never honest to begin with

    @ 3:17 pm on May 20, 2009

  3. THEY were thinking — it costs less.
    THEY were thinking — GuideLive is going to get cut anyway.

    Bank on it.

    @ 3:19 pm on May 20, 2009

  4. I hate it too, and the content is better here :-)

    @ 4:30 pm on May 20, 2009

  5. And furthermore … The Madame Butterfly which the DMN touts for the Dallas Symphony’s final performance was changed months ago (in a nod to the Opera, which is putting it on as part of their gala opening season starting this Fall). I’m so glad that the DMN is keeping up on who is dating who. Maybe that’s what’s keeping them so busy that they must print reviews written by the restaurants and not fact checking things like the Symphony’s final program of the year. Muckraking? yes. Journalism? no. Robert, fire somebody and tell the rest to get to work over there.

    @ 5:21 pm on May 20, 2009

  6. I agree with Gastronome 100%. DMN has much bigger issues to concern themselves with (like facts and whatnot). They are losing their journalistic luster (I do believe they once had it). And to focus on the personal lives of other Dallas media is just ridiculous. Should we start referring to our daily newspaper as the DMN or TMZ?

    @ 7:46 pm on May 20, 2009

  7. Gawd, you D people are childish little kids about all things elsewhere.

    @ 9:27 pm on May 20, 2009

  8. @Grady – nuh-uh!! Are not.

    @ 8:38 am on May 21, 2009

  9. just when I was warming to DMN’s new critic (several great recent reviews) they go and undercut her by downgrading the site. How long until we get the DFW Morning News or the DFW Star Telegram?

    Also, does anyone know to whom I can ship the pile of Briefings that are littering my lawn?

    @ 9:15 am on May 21, 2009

  10. Ship them to DGirl, c/o **** Washburne.

    @ 10:14 am on May 21, 2009

  11. cbs: I just looked at the site for the first time. As a writer facing how to conquer the internet demon, I feel for Leslie and Kim and the growing pains of redoing a site. We are doing the same thing here. We are constantly moving things around and trying to adapt to the new headline writing rules, how to tag stories, and all of the new bells and whistles behind the front page. It is a pain in the ass. I don’t think the new site downgrades the writers, I think it makes it hard on the readers–I had to jump around so many times to read everything–which is the goal Each time you jump they get a hit.

    @ 10:40 am on May 21, 2009

  12. cbs (and anyone else):
    You can cancel delivery of Briefing by filling out the form on the DMN Briefing page:
    http://www.dallasnews.com/briefing/

    @ 10:59 am on May 21, 2009

  13. I’m just glad to learn you’re not alone at home raking in Velveeta nachos like a croupier in Vegas before attacking sundry tubs of Blue Bell while sitting in the lotus position like I saw on my ‘Foodies Gone Wild’ DVD.

    @ 11:24 am on May 21, 2009

  14. G-man: I always read my Briefing but I don’t need more. Thanks, though.

    @ 11:43 am on May 21, 2009

  15. In a perfect world, you would have an e company that doesn’t have to sell anything hard copy, doesn’t have a growth goal to hit, doesn’t have a staff to pay and provide benefits for, doesn’t have a board of directors to answer to, doesn’t have a 2 visit rule, and has the freedom to lace their reviews and commentary with smart ass remarks, adult language, and somewhat humorous witticisms.

    Belo would have better luck trying to nail jello to a tree than getting caught up on this new fangled online thing.

    @ 12:00 pm on May 21, 2009

  16. Ms. NN- I agree the technology does not downgrade the writer, but it just seems the resource level at the DMN continues to decrease (as is true everywhere else). I just wonder how short a leash the review folks are on and will they be around in 3 months. The new site is not user friendly, which is generally rule #1 of these the interwebs.

    I still really like Ms. Brenner and hope she has staying power in Dallas. We need more focus on our dining scene…never enough of a good thing.

    @Scott- if that site works, you are my hero. My family, my neighbors, my yard and the Earth all thank you.

    @ 10:45 pm on May 21, 2009

  17. What were they thinking? before launching the new Restaurant site? The designer didn’t apply basic website industry standards such as “never using red” or “making the site easy to navigate and intuitive” and I suspect that the new site was never beta tested by outsiders. Frankly, as someone who has been using the former site daily, I find the new website to be impossible to use and the ease of use with the former site was virtually eliminated.

    Please try this search, for example, and see what results come up:

    o Select “French” and “Within 20 miles of ZIP 75252), which I chose intentionally as Lavendou, located in 75252, is one of the top French restaurants in DFW. Not only does Lavendou have an incomplete listing several pages from the top, but the search includes Tramontana (primarily Italian), Three Forks (steakhouse), Charlie Palmer’s and a wealth of others that not only do not fit nor were in the Restaurant site’s very accurate predecessor.

    o Select “French” “Within 5 Miles of 75252″ and up comes Ferrari’s Villa, which is purely an Italian restaurant and also Queen of Sheba Ethiopian and Italian Restaurant.

    D — this is your golden opportunity to come up with a dazzling site that is easy to navigate!

    @ 11:19 am on May 23, 2009